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support for an HBO who comes from you our listener Sam from advanced in you a local New Hampshire nonprofit specializing in college student loans and student refinancing options. Good morning guys. Part II. Mountain Lions in New Hampshire-Fact or Fiction. Listeners give us a call if you'd like. Ive received pictures of dogs at odd angles, says Tate. For all the men out there that don't realize it. She is renowned for tracking. Here she is talking about how to identify a mountain lion. Residents believe cougars still roam New Hampshire's forests - AP NEWS Rick van de Poll: Yes. Administrative Links. We're gonna cue you up and bring into the program listeners in just a moment but I want to ask about the role that Mountain Lions play in the ecosystem we've been talking a lot about mountain lions traveling and being sort of hard to track as they move. Sam Evans-Brown: One in fact Helena silver in that sort of tome that Rick van de Poll read from at the beginning is she. Let's look for other evidence. Thanks for your call. Sam Evans-Brown: You know the North America had a number of large predator species when humans first arrived in the continent. All they think it traveled north through Canada up you know crossed across the Great Lakes and then and then down again through New York State. Kyle I think about Rick Tate wants to jump in here. Do cougars live in New England? If it's someone that has an illegal captive animal that is accustomed to humans those leave a lot of evidence because they want to go around humans to find food meaning they're used to being fed by humans. Let us know your story and share your photos. I have no doubt that there are mountain lion roaming New Hampshire. Patrick Tate: Okay. We'll push great photos to the front page. Let us know your story and share your photos! Mountain lions can be found throughout Arizona, and data suggests the populations are not only stable, but growing. Caller: And the more I thought about it the color of it it was definitely not a bobcat. I saw the tail end of a literally from behind the shoulder The Long Tail mountain lion crossing the highway going from Password to often Village downtown. It was some sort of a Lion Mountain Lion animal. That's next time on one day. Rick van de Poll: Well I didn't. So I would put this in the category of sort of like shark attacks right. Since 1917, Lions clubs have offered people the opportunity to give something back to their communities. I'll send it to you. Peter Biello: Or send us an email exchange at an HP board. As wildlife biologists, wed be fascinated to say 'look look what was found in our state.'. And you know it's rather interesting because certainly there are those you as a case of mistaken identity or they wanted to see something that perhaps they actually didn't. And Rick van de Poll naturalist and founder of ecosystem management consultants of New England. Post your sightings and NH photos here! Well they are the same. Support for an age PR comes from you our listeners. There's a lot of photographs that you can see that it's very clearly a tabby cat that someone has thought was a mountain lion. Rick van de Poll: Well the mountain lion of course has been sort of an enigma in the wildlife suite for years and years. Having not found any evidence is not the same as saying there are no mountain lions, its the same as saying we dont know. There were several sightings in CT over the last few months. So you know until I found those two scats I didn't think that mountain lions were here in the east. I can't tell you what you saw but it sounds like a mountain lion. And those are not the same things. But you won't find evidence of their existence in paw prints in the snow or a deer carcass in a tree. Or years or so. So one thing I'll add. Patrick Tate: I've from all the situations I've read and learned about wildlife. If you missed part of today's program listen to the exchange. Peter Biello: Let's talk to Ron and where Ron thanks very much for calling. Pat do they typically just move around a lot. So I just brought up the bobcat thing because the location is fascinating to me that that that location we have Bobcats existing but that location we have a mountain lion report because it's a developed area and which brings me back to earlier what I had said it's a bouncing ball. Peter Biello: They make great mascots at least. (Cue the X-Files music: The Government is denying the cougars exist!) This decision was primarily for nerdy phylogeny reasons, though, because the eastern cougar probably never existed. Patrick Tate: Nice talk to you too. And so. Pat ruse and he was sampling doing DNA samples from cats in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Deer Bear Moose Wolves Fisher Mountain Lions. So what I'm getting back is the verifying and confirming of evidence what that was not there. I'm Peter Biello in for Laura NOI. Wed love to be part of the first verified sighting. If so that's for us as an agency. Thank you. I believe I saw one that's fine and I'm not looking for an immediate story. If you go on YouTube and search mount lion Pat you can see people patent their hundred pound kiddie like its regular mascot cat. Really appreciate it. Peter Biello: Sam I wanted to ask you a little bit about that first and then turn to Patrick Tate efficient game. It doesn't make much sense because you know mountain lions are as we as we said before. The unheralded hero of Apollo John Hubble the man who knew the way to the moon. I'm Peter Biello. And I saw you cat about four feet long from nose to tail come across from the water across the road and just leap over a six foot perimeter fence in a single bound. And I just said I saw I saw they from behind the shoulder all the way past the long tail. Rick van de Poll: Rick van de Poll so I was a non-believer as well. Part II. But are there mountain lions living in New Hampshire? Thank you very much for that story really appreciate it. So I will just say this is a big reason why there have not been confirmed sightings I think is that the evidence required first. Yeah I did. Patrick Tate: Yes. New Hampshire Fish and Game Department says there's no proof. Residents believe cougars still roam New Hampshire's forests Don't miss your chance to win three two thousand dollar gas gift cards at any station of your choice not to mention the grand prize twenty five thousand dollars toward a new car. Now that to me seemed to indicate that they had done the secondary workup that in my opinion proved the existence of probably a disperse or possibly from South Dakota like the one in 2011. The 17-year-old Kiger mustang mare was born in Bend, Oregon, said Hodskins, who got her . Mountain Lions in New England: Sightings, Science & Bobcat vs Mountain Lion No I saw a camel. But having read a bit of information about his cougar there are a darker subspecies. There's no logic for why they'd be listed as an endangered species. It is also known as cougar, panther, mountain lion, and puma, though catamount is the preferred regional vernacular. And I I have this great text history of New Hampshire game and fir bears and I think by Helen Silver who used to work for fish and game and she sort of I kind eyes this animal in one of the quotes from 1892 stating that the catamaran was the most ferocious of all the wild beasts of New Hampshire his great size strength and agility of movement together with his formidable weapons rendered him the terror both of man and beast. Peter Biello: And that will make identification for a layperson rather difficult. So for our scientists to do the lumping and whatnot. Any sense of of whether or not mountain lions are sort of wary of more population dense areas like like the one he was describing Rick. And they were using all the habitat. So. It's good to talk to you. But you won't find evidence of their existence in paw prints in the snow or a deer carcass in a tree. And that's this morning at 10:00 here on NH PR. It all used to be based on measurable physical traits color, skull size, paw size, etc but now its based on whether an animal can be shown to be genetically distinct from others. Fear for others and those two polarizing opinions on the situation is what I believe brings out mystique and Sam you know I take kind of a long view on this. Peter Biello: And Carl before you continue I think Patrick Tate just give me a second. But my experience was that the majority of these accounts could not be taken lightly. List of mountains of New Hampshire - Wikipedia Peter Biello: Well Mike thanks very much for sharing your story. Sam Evans-Brown: Well this might be a good moment to talk about hoaxes. List of Mountains in New Hampshire is a general list of mountains in New Hampshire, with elevation.This list includes many mountains in the White Mountains range that covers about a quarter of the state, as well as mountains outside of that range.. Some argue that it's a leap of faith. We discuss what residents may have been seeing and what breeding mountain lion pairs would mean for our ecosystem. She was having a garden party on her back porch and everybody in the party saw this mountain lion across the field down below the porch. And so I just wanted to share my share my experience with you guys and it was pretty awesome to see if you get to see one albeit it was in the brush. Caller: Absolutely. I think that you probably are. Infinite Scroll Enabled. Well let me ask maybe Pat and Rick about this. Patrick Tate: So I'm not sure what subspecies of cat they're using to differentiate by those markings but once she was describing the White other face in the black. Information online ad an age student loans dawg. What gets confusing is when you have a large adult animal and a smaller juvenile animal of a different species you can now step start beginning talking about overlapping body weights and sizes. You need you need either a really good photograph or you need you know fresh scat that can be sent to a lab out West that can they can be identified there. Patrick Tate: Exactly I was gonna bring that up juvenile male of. It's listed as population of least concern. Want to report a Mountain Lion sighting in New Hampshire? Now again I don't know that there's anything to that. Known to exist in the state for over well over a hundred years. We mentioned that one cat that was hit by a car where it has it that it was a male looking for me. I wasn't employed as biologists at the time of a situation that's been reported but so I started digging into this report and spoke with another wildlife biologist with the agency and said Do you know anything about this. I was a Bobcat we saw it and I have a picture of it. Patrick Tate: My line being a large predator a cat watch ambush his prey animal that hasn't been. You know perhaps poke around where you saw it and see if you can find a track. And really whenever you hear tiny code and long rope like tale it's kind of hard to pin this sighting on any other creature rather than an outline or just nothing else really matches that description. Give today. Thank you. While State Denies Mtn Lions are in NH, Numerous Sightings Say Rick van de Poll: Rick your thoughts. Well let's hear from from Sue Morse again science director for the organization keeping track. Is there a way we can learn more about these dispersing mountain lions that may travel through the Granite State and that I would ask you certainly part about whether or not a he's spending too much time chasing down these kind of false leads or B would rather be doing something else that is more informative to whether or not we actually have or can prove that we have dispersing mountain lions in the state. So try to take photographs if you see something like this. Caller: I do. Monday, December 5th: Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? - WMUR SUE Morse naturalist and science director for the organization keeping track. We're gonna talk about sightings in this part of the program as well we'd love to hear your story. And they asked me about the tail which I just did not remember that tail out of that whole experience. John is calling from Bennington. And I can recall its information but I can't confirm or verify anything. Which brings us to the next question, what are the odds that some of these reported sightings (which, when I posted about this on twitter, I immediately started to get as well) are actually people seeing a mountain lion? Michael Brindley is our program manager our producers our Jessica Hunt and Christina Phillips and our theme music was composed by Bob Lord. They lived perhaps elsewhere in New England and they were just passing through and happened to have an encounter of some sort. Each person had their own copy and now it was identify the trees the species of tree matched. Sue Morse: First and foremost if you have color or if you could see details of color look at the front of the face around the Pumas muzzle the muzzle itself is pure white. These young males are tracking looking for mates and if they don't find a mate they just keep moving and moving and moving. So it is possible to see male Mountain lions roam into the northeast - there was one hit by a car in CT a number of years back - but we don't have a breeding population of Mountain lions in New England. So the U.S. Forest Service Rocky Mountain Research Station has a database on mountain lion and they can identify. You know you have to have a license and it's hard to get that license a license to own a mountain lion. For me as a person who's handled many bobcats and looked at many pictures Bobcat the White chin Bobcat right off is what comes out to me and then the black the the roughs on our Bobcats we'll have sometimes have black fringes on them. The second one was not only fresh but when I actually put my hand on it it was you know smelled like cat and I it's there's no denying a fresh mountain lions get if you can tell it every story that KOAT. Mike Guyton pressure was almost Greyhound like very muscular large back legs on it and the coloration on it was almost an orange brownish orange color and so I stop and I look at this thing in the field and as the animal looks at me the face was very chiseled definitely not a bobcat. History of Mountain Lions in New Hampshire | NH Wildlife I'm gonna send you a letter that we researched this report and we spoke with those labs and the lab wrote in their letter to us that they could only say that Scott contained white Tea Party fur and that they could not say what deposited the scout because it's far too degraded listeners we'd love to hear from you about your mountain lion sightings if you have seen one or if you if you think you have give us a call we'd love to hear your story 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. NHFG Wildlife Biologist Patrick Tate identifies this cat as a bobcat. N.H. Residents Report Mountain Lion Sighting - NECN This is a machine-generated transcript, and may contain errors. For over 38 years the Saddleback Mountain Lions have offered people a chance to give back to their community. 1957. I mean no doubt a seen Bobcat seen his stuff. County road and all of a sudden a big cat jumps out of the woods over a stone wall stood in the middle of the dirt road as I rode towards it. He said matter of fact I do. I had a resident in New Hampshire tell me a story of a mountain lion in the 1960s where a person who would come summer in New Hampshire and then live in a different part of the country in the winter had a trailer that was housing his mount line. Thanks very much. As I tried to get a picture of it so there was it was definitely we looked up all the pictures and it was definitely not a bobcat or anything else being it looked just like a mountain lion. They are the same thing. So for me as a person who's had the Bobcats right off my grits similar carries sticks to a bobcat The Long Tail obviously very different but those facial markings were overlapping for me. I'm sorry go ahead you're on the air. If you believe you have seen a mountain lion and want to report it to NH Fish and Game, please contact the Wildlife Division at (603) 271-2461 or wildlife@wildlife.nh.gov to request an observation report form. Maps of Trapping Take by Town 1994 to 2004. Peter Biello: I did mention four feet nose to tail would be kind of small for a mountain lion. And today we're talking about the mysterious elusive mountain line with folks who know something about it. He told me that on one of his many scouting trips for Black Bear he found a deer carcass up in a tree. Patrick Tate: I would say well when social media first started they picked up the hoaxes became much more prevalent in the last four or five years hoaxes have died down completely. Yes and you want to share what you learned. I mean they're a survivor. As recently as 2011 there was one young male mountain lion that cruised all the way from the black hills of South Dakota, up over the Great Lakes, down through New Yorkgetting spotted all along the waykilled a beaver near the Quabbin Reservoir in Central Massachusetts, left behind prints and DNA at that site, and then was hit by a car in Connecticut. And Rick Van de Poll naturalist and founder of ecosystem management consultants of New England. M from Tree Hill author series presenting Diane lay back. You can see two of them at Squam Lakes Natural Science Center in Holderness NH. For instance, Floridas wildlife officials have a similar ghost cat: the black panther. And the cougar embodies that. Do you get a lot of these these these things that end up being hoaxes. Phone number 1 800. We have evidence and as biologists we would find it quite exciting to find that evidence of one in the state. People were calling the New Hampshire Fish and Game director's office saying why are you dragging your feet on this. Oh you saw him online. So you want identifiable backgrounds. Mountain Lion | Squam Lakes Natural Science Center But on the other side of that coin there is this sense that there have been so many sightings locally and you guys Patrick you might recall the name the Wyndham McCracken she kind of turned herself into a local authority off authorities the right word but she was very dedicated to this. They're the generalists that made it through both the arrival of the Clovis people with their with their spears and then the Europeans with their guns. Well just that I have evidence and it was not it was denied by fishing game at the time and I you know there's I don't need to prove to anybody that I saw one just like some of your callers said okay. The great thing about pictures isn't the animal itself it's the background. Tim Yeah. Caller: Well I think Patrick I recognized your name. No doubt in my mind it was. I noticed it had a really big sweeping tail that kind of curled up behind it and all but still at that point because everyone says there's no mountain lions here. Thank you. And I was probably about a half a mile from downtown all village on the right. Sam Evans-Brown: So Tim so this cat's been been referenced a couple of times I think we should talk about it specifically lay the whole story out for folks who haven't heard the story because it's actually I think really indicative of a lot of stuff for talking about. And I think this is a really interesting story for a couple of reasons one is that it proves what Pat was saying which that basically from New York state where its traces was really picked up on a game camera around Lake George all the way down to Connecticut there was numerous. It traveled all the way from from you know Minnesota to New York without being so seen Patrick take. Wildlife biologist breaks down mountain lion sightings in CT | New Give today. So do they. Pat humans people leave deer carcasses up in trees. Rick van de Poll: Well a report that you know as John Harrigan up north has in co-ops County for about 15 years I kept track of reports and people would call me and tell me where they saw the mountain lion they thought they saw it and it varied right from you know downtown villages all the way to remote highlands of the North Country and and everywhere in between. From involving members in projects as local as cleaning up an area park or as far-reaching as bringing sight to the world's blind, Lions clubs have always . Right. But no proof was offered. The states never denied mountain lions are here, and theyve never admitted mountain lions are here. Today on the exchange we discuss what residents may have been seeing and what breeding mountain lion pairs would mean for our ecosystem. Caller: So I've been telling this story for five years or so and very few people believe me. "Of those three to five reports,. Yeah 13 to 15 years ago 13 to 15 years ago. Caller: Oh yeah. 19 WMUR uLocal: On this trail cam video, an unidentified feline is spotted. Are these big cats back?Subscribe to WMUR on YouTube now for more: http://bit.ly/1lOjX9CGet more Manchester news: http://wmur.comLike us: http://facebook.com. To date, the Department has not received any verifiable evidence (photographic or DNA)of mountain lions existing in New Hampshire. I think as Pat was saying you know 35 to 50 pounds on a male be reasonable range whereas mountain lions you're up to 100 110 maybe even 130 pounds on a big male. There wasn't a distinct subspecies the North American mountain lion is all is all one species and then you can find a genetically distinct South American subspecies. Mountain Lion in New Hampshire? - Bowsite.com Well Is DNA the most reliable means we have of identifying whether or not what we saw is actually a mountain lion. Rick van de Poll: Well education is the real important thrust of of what all of us do as biologists and Game Managers and to make sure that a things like what Sam was saying that in spite of what you believe the mountain lions will not eat your children they will not steal your pets from your backyard and they will not necessarily be seen by you unless you're extremely lucky. Less successful males roam further. Mark Elbroch doesnt think so. Yes. So if you were to ask me has a mountain lion ever passed through New Hampshire and been spotted by somebody who wasnt able to get hard evidence? Id personally be willing to say "probably, yes.". Sam Evans-Brown: Pretty well I was going to say it is nice to hear about how to identify the facial markings but probably I'd being a to identify the tracks is probably the more useful useful tool that one can have in their tool box. Really appreciate you guys being here as well. And we want to know your stories if you have them 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7 or email exchange at an HP bar dot org we'll talk about conspiracy theories when we come back. Join as a $8 per month sustainer and get our brand-new owl umbrella! 44-H Links. What's interesting about Bobcats is here in the Northeast we have some very large bobcats. Like why would you want one wildlife. Rick shaking his head so Rick now correct me please. You could trace that was this same cat from point to point to point. OK. That location they just described we had two or three Bobcats radio collared on just off the runway in Laconia airport. Fish and Game then deny the evidence. You need a permit to have that. Mike you're on the air. There are corollaries in other states. There's these animals aren't coming with a map saying oh I want to go here. Sue Morse: The big cat really commands the utmost respect not so much fear but fascination. Peter Biello: When did you allegedly see a mountain lion. As recently as 2011 there was one young male mountain lion that cruised all the way from the black hills of South Dakota, up over the Great Lakes, down through New Yorkgetting spotted all. Mountain lions don't usually travel more than 100 miles from where they are born. What do you think that. Peter Biello: Nice to be here. First off if the standard for an agency to go forward with the public and put out a press release that them outlines here their believers are going to say I told you they'd been here the whole time. I found a second scat scent both to him. Patrick Tate: If I could just say one thing. Share. Patrick Tate: In theory it's a passing ball of a court and it goes wherever the bottom Ball wants to go. Because I mean as we've heard in the past 10 minutes like there's there's some disagreement or at least some some vagueness about what an actual mountain lion should appear like in the wild assuming we can even get close enough. Here it is. I'm Peter B yellow. New Hampshire Public Radio | A monthly donation of $5 makes a real difference. PublishedNovember 16, 2018 at 6:16 AM EST. And now that everyone and their mother has a remote camera in their back yard its just so, so unlikely that there are resident, breeding mountain lions in New England that are living invisibly among us, he says, Its become Big Foot.. I've actually had to walk in on one or two now and look at what was going on and figured out what was going on. 1957. Residents Report Mountain Lion Sighting By Elysia Rodriguez Published August 11, 2015 A southern New Hampshire neighborhood believes a mountain lion is roaming the woods near their homes. You know interactions are pretty unusual. On a dirt road. They reported seeing the big tail and everything everything. And so so with their limited staff and limited budget that is that is more and more limited every year because you know fewer people are buying hunting and fishing licenses. HOLDERNESS, N.H. (AP) Two of the known mountain lions in New Hampshire have spent their 15 years in close proximity to humans. The views expressed in this program are those of the individuals and not those of an HP are its board of trustees or its underwriters. We'll be right back. And because you know things flow downhill and I was pushed to go investigate it more and met with the individual two or three times and there was a bunch of inconsistencies about the photograph. Today, their range stretches from the Yukon Territory in Canada along the western coast of the United States, all the way to the Southern Andes in Chile. I would say that there's going to be the truth in here somewhere. And in fact in 2011 when it was announced that the eastern cougar was officially extinct the reason that announcement was made is because they said really that it never existed. Hunting is legal, but closely regulated by the state. Can you tell us about that story. Your support makes this news available to everyone. Mountain Lions | Wildlife | New Hampshire Fish and Game Department I have one that's more elaborate than that. Me Im willing to believe its possible that there are some out there. So the whole media hype about how scary mountain lions are should should go away immediately and that would be that I think the major thrust of educating folks about these casualties vs.. Sam Evans-Brown: Sam go ahead. Yes. Mountain Lion Population (In Each U.S. State) - Wildlife Informer Thank you for visiting the New Hampshire Fish and Game Department website. And so far we have not had any positive mark lion scats or any DNA. You know I think it's there's a lady Holly Ernst out in California who has done a lot of the genotyping of mountain lions in Northern California the ones that are of course most people have heard about taking down hikers bikers etc. Fish and Game looked into the labs to have them confirm the information in the reports which the labs did not. If youd like to submit a question (or send a mountain line photo) you can record it as a voice memo on your smart phone and send it tooustidein@nhpr.org, OR call our hotline, 1-844-GO-OTTER (1-844-466-8837) and leave a message. www.wildlife.state.nh.us, Buy or Renew Your Saltwater Fishing License, Great Bay National Estuarine Research Reserve. Patrick Tate: Yes. Tonight, Sean McDonald investigates,. Sort of dropped onto the SD card of a camera he'd set up out in the wild. So Michael follows with the question. So I know it's another unconfirmed report but you string enough of these together. Residents believe cougars still roam New Hampshire's forests - AP NEWS Monday, December 5th: Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? Part II - WMUR One was in Shelton. David Erler says some of them probably have. Over a period of a year and a half, this Mountain Lion left DNA evidence in at least four states. Patrick Tate: No downward pressure at all I think actually Sean turned up and we found the evidence there a number of people would finally say finally we can put this debate to bed. Give us a call if you have a question or comments or story about perhaps seeing a mountain lion here in New Hampshire. But you won't find evidence of their existence in paw prints in the snow or a deer carcass in a tree. We rely on readers like you to support the local, national, and international coverage on this website. Mountain lions live in the state. I tracked cats and all the western states.

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